(1 Timothy 3:1-13; Acts 6:1-7;Philippians 1:1), God established both civil and local church governments. Stop this shamefulness, as you hurt the ministry of our Lord. If you think that you should cut your vacation short so that you can make it back in time for Sunday morning Sunday School, but think its OK that your pastor miss a Sunday or two because hes on vacation, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 5. You are still required to tithe in the IFB regardless of your source of income. 23. 33. The explosion caused property damage but no injuries or deaths. I prefer Kjv! Every proposition presented for action of the church must be introduced by motion of one member and seconded by another. 35. 1. I wish you had broken up your last paragraph into multiple paragraph everything runs together. It emphasizes love at the expense of truth. There are a lot of IFB pastors out there like that, the majority of the ones I sat under were like that, they just want to see you do better. WebWOL's Directory of Independent Baptist Churches; Independent Baptist Churches. We believe in salvation by grace Happily a brainwashed Bible-folk for about 28 years with more peace in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ and a firm foundation of absolute truth to stand on (yes, thats the KV, haha!). I like door knocking is any of our church compelled to do so? Pastor dont preach on smoking unless he preaches on a list of things that destroy the body. Teaching there is any unforgivable sin besides the sin of unbelief in Jesus Christ is not biblical. [5], In 2021, the NIFB-affiliated First Works Baptist Church in El Monte, California was bombed with an improvised explosive device. We believe in the natural divisions of Scriptures as a basis for study. Im convinced that its much much deeper than rejecting real truth .. many many come back in southern Baptist churches, but not ifb churches.. what say u. I dont agree with this because there is nothing wrong with going to college. Not of works, lest any man should boast. 15 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. I will cut to the chase: my Pastor and his wife took a much needed vacation a few years ago. Growing up in a very conservative IFB church, I can personally attest to how accurate most of these were. We dont forgive people for their salvation we cant because we arent Jesus. Scofield came to know Christ AFTER all of that, so I dont hold that against him. I had a wedding dress from when my boyfriend proposed on December 5, 2010. Hypocrites! So, are you happy about that, or wanting to change? I had a free apartment, food stamps, government phone, and a $60.. utility check every month. First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friends eye. This Bible is preserved for the English speaking world without error in the King James Version. They simply do not know and probably lack the ability to do the research, but Cyril I. Scofield was a Confederate soldier who left his wife and two children and later remarried another woman. Its insidious and extremely toxic. This church is affiliated with the Minnesota Baptist Conference and the Baptist General Conference, and may likewise cooperate with interdenominational fellowships on a voluntary independent basis. Smoking, drinking, partying, dancing, listening to secular music or Contemporary music arent sinful though partying can only be sinful if you are drunk. 7. The New IFB is strongly opposed to homosexuality, with several pastors advocating the belief that homosexuals should be executed by the government. (Genesis 2:24; Genesis 19:5, 13; Genesis 26:8-9; Leviticus 18:1-30; Romans 1:26-29; 1 Corinthians 5:1, 6:9; 1 Thessalonians 4:1-8; Hebrews 13:4). I read Matthew 23 just before writing. However, some (I agree Ogrodnik) are unfair and judgmental. Ive addressed the scriptures about tithing in my article and explain it using proper exegesis and hermeneutics. If you think that reading a version of the Bible other than the KJV is a sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 18. N/A You might 5 Everything they do is for show. 29 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. We reject all cooperation with this movement. WebActs 15:36,41; 16:5; I Corinthians 16:1; Galatians 1:1-3; Revelation 1:4, 10, 11. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. You can forgive him, that doesnt mean you have to marry him. Generally its the Pastor, or Preaching Elder or Minister, that has to attend multiple services because he has to preach the sermon. Read one thing, make a judgment that Im just bitter and move on. Many churches are about the money, as is some of their pastors. Reading any other version outside of the King James Version is sin same concern as I mentioned topic 1 Belief number 51 is absolutely wrong. The IFB are Pharisees of our day. (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 18:15-20; Acts 15:22-21; 2 Corinthians 8:1-5, 19, 23), All born-again believers have the privilege of direct access to God. Church membership is a necessary privilege for believers who follow Christ. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 9. What if it had been biting you for 5, 10, 15, or (in my case) 25 years and you managed to finally escape would you go back or send a love one to pet it? WHY do children that leave IFB churches hardly ever come back? 19 How blind! 49. Scofield Bible!!!! 27. What an extensive list. If you attend a church each Sunday with a team of men that keeps track of attendence each Sunday In our congregation, we do not do that. And if a lost person were to stumble upon this page and read your list and how you respond to any differing opinions, would you be helping plant a seed? If I have misunderstood I apologize. My mother doesnt wear fancy earrings. Like a grenade strike, no commitment to understand or empathize, just broad and arrogant assumptions. Instead of attempting to find humor , find time to pray for them. [6] Adam Fannin, the lead preacher at SBC's Jacksonville satellite campus, refused to acknowledge the authority of Jonathan Shelley, another Texas New IFB pastor who took over SBCFort Worth following Romero's resignation. I love devotions with the Lord. If you believe that using guitars in church is too liberal, yet you listen to patch the pirate who uses guitars, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 14. Its our personal decisions that cause us to who to hell though most of their practices are not biblical, especially the devotions to the Virgin Mary as they especially have her as the intercessor. How will you escape the judgment of hell? What a typical, legalistic comment from Jason. I do agree that any time when you have health issues its because of sin which is why God allows pain and suffering. My pastor and his wife sent evil. If you believe that the wine referred to in the Bible is nothing more than fruit of the vine (AKA grape juice), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 26. We reject any teaching that abortions of pregnancies due to rape, incest, birth defects, gender selection, birth or population control, or the mental well-being of the mother are acceptable. Using guitars in church is too liberal That was not the case at the church I grew up in when the last pastor I had when he came to Mountain Church of Christ when he first arrived (which is instrumental though membership is small). If you think that more than one earring per ear for women is worldly, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 13. I do agree that its not sinful about renting movies or watching them on TV. 20. Many of these are down right untruthful . [5], New IFB pastors have been the subjects of controversy on numerous occasions. 11. People are more willing to change their ways when confronted in love rather then with criticism and bitterness. I disclosed to (2) pastors at this church personal and heart felt feelings that I thought and grew up and was told you can talk to your pastor, because he is a man of God. We believe in verbal, plenary inspiration in the original writings, and God's preservation of His pure words to every generation (II Timothy 3:16, Psalms 12:6-8). For you build tombs for the prophets your ancestors killed, and you decorate the monuments of the godly people your ancestors destroyed. [14], Tarrant County, Texas preacher Dillon Awes attracted considerable controversy for advocating that "every single homosexual" in America be lined up against a wall and shot in the back of the head. 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. What is a Bible Baptist Church, and what do Bible Baptists believe. If you think that you can be a better Christian or have more favor with God with good performance, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 54. God is the only one who can forgive mans sins. Jesus said I came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.. Judah has always been with God. Baptists are traditionally strong believers in Biblical authority. Those myths are addressed in my article: https://baptistdeception.com/tithing/, I dont need to wait. This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. Mind your own business. Can God heal if it be his will yes he can. If a child is behaving like a child (i.e., appropriate for his/her age), but you think they are being misbehaving and rebellious, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 40. I have attended an IB Church my entire life (34 years). 14. If you think that the KJV is inspired, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 2. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. Copyright 2002-2023 Got Questions Ministries. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. If I couldnt tolerate anyone saying something different I would instruct the site moderator to delete comments such as yours. Im told its because when u abandon the real truth, theres hardly any hope. If you think that any rational thought is dangerous because it may lead you to believe something different than what the IFB believes, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 50. I believe tithing is good and God blesses those who tithe. Yes. If you refuse to eat at a restaurant because they serve alcoholic beverages, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 27. Independent Fundamental Baptist is NOT a denomination because they are Independent I am not Baptist but they are CLOSE to being a denomination because of their beliefs. If the IFB churches are hurting the cause of Christ, would your attitude and example also hurt His cause. If you think that the hymnal in the pew is inspired by God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 23. There isn't much out there on the web. BUT, there is good news! JUDAH. For you are so careful to clean the outside of the cup and the dish, but inside you are filthyfull of greed and self-indulgence! I understand others dont like hearing God gave inspiration to the Kjv, but its true. the appearance of things is more important than reality, aka, you will cover up abuse and silence victims in order to protect the name of Christ. Gods people are the Jews.. from Jew-dajudah. Peace. Scripture is Good! The New IFB does not consider itself to be a denomination. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith around mutual interests or ministry opportunities, but one church cannot exert authority over another. Every child of God has equal access to their Heavenly Father. The women that I befriended in this church will always be my sister in Christ. Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. We got saved that day September 14, 2014. His son a child murderer. 19:13-15. Me and my husband got saved 3 1/2 years ago at an IFB church. Many of these, yes are extreme, be we also need to not be compromising in some areas. If you believe that your health issue is the result of sin in your life, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 49. God speaks to individuals through His Word and His Spirit. Years ago, I heard a very funny but truthful skit on what was or wasnt OK. Each verse ended with, Its OK, because Independent Fundamental Baptist Preachers do it.. They try there best to live for Christ and to give God the glory for everything. We cant save people, only God can. I came to get a few laughs but it sounds like you were really hurt by some church growing up. ALL sins are forgivable, even homosexuality although it is a detestable sin in Gods eyes. Does he always heal people no. 5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brothers eye. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. I forgave and praise the lord in my life forgiveness was indeed profitable. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word. Its concept of an ecclesiastical Kingdom is not supported by Scripture. But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. In the past 25 years, Ive seen many children leave but very few come back. 39. These are right on the money! WebHeartland Baptist Bible College is unique. You obviously didnt read the entire list see number 47. 22 And when you swear by heaven, you are swearing by the throne of God and by God, who sits on the throne. Haha, thanks for the confirmation! Which is more importantthe gold or the Temple that makes the gold sacred? If you should cut your vacation short you should never miss church this has happened only once in my life when I went I was on my senior class trip. My writing tends to be somewhat heavy and serious so every once in a while I like to add some humor to lighten things up a bit. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. Who are the Independent Baptists, and what do they believe? Im mocking IFB beliefs many of which arent scriptural. You had to wear a tie if you wanted to preach or preside over the Lords Supper. Some of these doctrines are as listed. Most pastors skip virtue, usually because they just dont know any better. Who are the Free Will Baptists, and what do they believe? Any ways God is good and can use any church to reach anyone it all depends on if you as an individual will receive his free gift of salvation, because God is that powerful. If your church as at least 2 Revivals per year, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. 15. You ALWAYS have your KJV Bible with you at church, and turn to numerous verses each sermon. Im still separate I have just decided to sin. 30. 55. If you feel compelled to go door to door witnessing (or were compelled to visit a nursing home as a teen), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 28. We believe in the reality of the person of Satan and that he and the fallen angels wage a spiritual warfare against the plan and purposes of God (John 13:2; Acts 5:3; Ephesians 6:11-12). The churches that teach certain things unrelated to scripture, are a result of what the Bible calls IN THE LAST DAYS. In the last days, people will leave their first love, just as you have left YOUR first love, probably because of a pastor, an arrogant church member, or maybe because of your very own relationship with God, a relationship that is lacking. 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but dont follow their example. You consider it a personal failure if you are not able to find a verse within ten seconds, and secretly proud if you are able to find it right away. 21 And when you swear by the Temple, you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. We believe that the souls of unbelievers remain, after death, in conscious misery until the second resurrection, when with soul and body reunited they shall appear at the Great White Throne Judgment, and shall be cast into the Lake of Fire, not to be annihilated, but to suffer everlasting, conscious punishment (Luke 16:19-26; Matthew 25:41-46; II Thessalonians 1:7-9; Jude 6-7; Mark 9:43-48; Revelation 20:11-15). New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist churches (also known as the New IFB) or officially the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement are an association of conservative, King James Only, independent Baptist churches. I love psychology and I love my bible I use them together with Discernment from the Holy Spirit. In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. We only care when we see new faces in the church, whether guests or new members. Lots of people at the church stoped what they were doing to attend. Thanks. Landlord Cody Johnson later agreed not to evict Stedfast Baptist from the Watauga location after communicating with Stedfast's lawyer.[15][16]. As far as tithing is concerned, the people who do tithe, it should be because they tithe because they want to. If you laugh (snicker, sneer, roll your eyes, etc.) If your not getting a lot out of your bible read I would recommend a switch to Kjv and to define any word you dont know Slow down reading and meditate on what your reading dont read as a duty each day but as a searching for fellowship each day. If you went to a church camp where mixed bathing wasnt allowed and every evening there was a 3 hour sermon, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. That can get a little hairy, though, because you never know when youll end up at a more liberal churchlike yours! [9][10] On the weekend of the third anniversary of the shooting, the New IFB held a "Make America Straight Again" conference at an Orlando-area New IFB church. In 1974 Kenneth Chrismans father passed away. [4], Despite the website's claims that each church is independent, some followers and former followers of the New IFB have accused Anderson of having complete control over the organization and ejecting anyone who has a minor disagreement with him. It was fun to read down through comments and feel a little gratified that not everyone was chuckling to themselves againwhy?? All rights reserved. Independent Fundamental Baptist or Bible-Believing Baptist) are a particularly cranky fundamentalist branch of unaffiliated 5. Ive never been instructed their acting Rebellious or looked down on or had any concern for myself but they were rebellious. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? If you have others please feel free to share in the comments section, 1. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ accomplished our redemption through His finished work on the cross as a representative, vicarious, substitutionary sacrifice; and that our justification is made sure by His literal, physical resurrection from the dead (Romans 3:24-25; I Peter 2:24; Ephesians 1:7; I Peter 1:3-5). Whether we worship with hymns or hands int he air praise and worship songs, we are all suppose to be on the same side. Suits and ties are generally not required today for men , except for ministers, though some churches do require suits and ties and I dont know any that I do of. The Bible gives qualifications for each office. The pastor explained forgiveness and that Jesus has already forgiven his sin on the cross and if I choose to not forgive than I am believing in my heart Jesus didnt die for his sin. 12 But those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted. Youre perfect for them because they dont want people challenging their belief system. I was taught that I needed to let God change him. Anybody who opposes the IFB teaching is bitter Cant say that because anybody who opposes BIBLICAL teaching is spiritually blind because they dont know the truth. 23 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. I did read it but I still dont understand their beliefs on it.. I found that 10 of those apply to me and Im not even IFB. We believe that , lesbianism, bisexuality, bestiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography are perversions of God's intended purposes and therefore, sin. If you believe women shouldnt wear pants, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 12. I understand that its hard to convey emotions when typing, but the above list does not have the feel that it was done with a spirit of love but one of condemnation. If I chose to forgive him there would be hope for our relationship. 5 Hypocrite! Thanks for reading! We believe that the ecumenical movement is a demonic attempt to unite all Christian denominations around experience to the disregard of biblical doctrine. The reality is the ONLY TRUE CHURCH is the church that PRACTICES BIBLICAL TEACHINGS and NOT THAT OF MAN-MADE TEACHINGS because THEY ARE AGAINST THE BIBLE because I do ask the question that why there are so many churches. the Bible teaches us to prove and test matters. As I sit under preaching, sing worship songs unto the Lord, pray earnestly, read my Bible as often as I can, and search through commentaries to help me gain a deeper knowledge instead of surface reading, I KNOW Im drawing closer to God in a personal relationship with Him. You tend to lump independent Baptist or independent religious organizations into one lump, sensing that they are all the same. WebIndependent Fundamental Baptist churches have fellowship one with the other and often cooperate in such endeavors as evangelism. Complete Guide to Christian Denominations: Understanding the History, Beliefs, and Differences by Ron Rhodes. I had no idea that I, as an IFB, might be guilty of these things. My jabs are defensive in nature. [4][5], A split in the New IFB occurred in January 2019, after Donnie Romero, pastor at Stedfast Baptist Church-Fort Worth (SBC), resigned after it was revealed he had hired prostitutes, smoked marijuana and gambled. I loved him, but I hated the way he treated me. The Trinity: Southern Baptists believe in only one God who reveals himself as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. We as a couple decided to do things biblical. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist If you believe that that the wine referred to in the bible is nothing more than the fruit of the vine I generally agree with this part especially when it comes to the Lords Supper because wine from a biblical perspective is grape juice even though I still question if it is NOTHING MORE than the fruit of the vine. How about shortchanging the Lord out of 20 minutes of Sunday service time worship for game show gimmickry hype to boost attendance? Youre supposed to read the word daily, it says give us this day our daily bread. Hmm, I cant think of a better word to describe the workings of the IFB! Be careful that a fanatical or unbiblical few do not cause you to condemn us all as a group. You are quick to throw in a jab about how much you dislike them, but cannot tolerate anyone saying different. Some of these are humorous and right on the money. We ONLY pray to God because saints dont serve as mediators to God the Father. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. If you believe that everyone who opposes IFB doctrine is just bitter, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 48. We believe that eternal life is the present possession of every believer (John 6:37-40, 10:27-30; Romans 8:1, 38-39; I Corinthians 1:4-8; I Peter 1:4-5; Jude 1, 2). 9. Youre judgment of me by one blog post and its comments is typical IFB tactic. XII. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? Three words vacation bible school *shiver*. We believe that the clear message of salvation is repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). We believe that a Fundamentalist is defined by their adherence to orthodox theology, orthodox methodology, and will only fellowship with those who do the same. The Pharisees were filled with hypocrisy and iniquity and my church is not. By the way Jason, if you think theres something spiritual about tolerating abuse, I feel sorry for you. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. I dare say it would be the one you enjoy making fun of. We believe that the New Testament church is a local assembly of baptized believers who have voluntarily joined themselves toge therto carry out the Great Commission. Fannin was later ejected as the lead preacher of SBC-Jax. In the last days, you will get churches like you have described in your initial post, but not all of them are the same. People that are lost cant do what God has commanded because of unbelief. If you believe that the IFB isnt a denomination because they are Independent, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 37. I found this site while checking for deceptions in different denominations, starting with Mormons. Duh Get your mind out of the gutter. Are these points form the KJV Bible or is it carved from the principles from scriptures. If this life of inner peace is what I can have without feeling the need to write long lists then Ill take it. First wash the inside of the cup and the dish,[i] and then the outside will become clean, too. 6:14-17), We believe that God has commanded that no intimate physical activity be engaged in outside of marriage between a man and a woman.
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